Below, you can read my article, "The Republican Party Death Knell?"
Here, I just wanted to encourage you to sign this petition asking Mike Duncan, Chairman of the Republican National Committtee, to invite Mike Huckabee to give the keynote address at the Republican convention. Keynote is aiming high, but aiming too high is better than aiming too low, and Mike Huckabee deserves it anyway.
I also want you to visit the Fair Tax website and sign the petition they have going. They want 100,000 signatures to present to Congress on April 15.
Lastly, there's a new website spawned from Huck's Army called "F3 Coalition." Go there and sign up to be a part.
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Done, done, and done. Thanks for letting us know.
Familiar with the term "freedom of religion"? Apparently not.
A "Christian" America is different than an Islamist Indonesia because YOUR god is REAL, but the other billions of souls are all wrong, and bound for hell? So the only difference between you and the Jihadist is that they will kill me, and you will only use the power of government to coerce me?
I am starting to warm to the idea of the "christofascist".
Jim Baker is also a "Christian" and I believe Ted Kennedy claims to be also. Bill Clinton went to church on a regular basis.
I must assume that you have no other political concerns, just shove Jesus down the throats of the masses?
It is blogs like this one, as un-Christian as I can imagine, that make me teach my children that Christians have become mostly evil people.
Jesus said "Render unto Ceaser what is Ceaser's" not "We must replace Ceaser with one of our own"
I thought that Christians were supposed to change hearts by their witness, not through the electi0n process.
You can assume all you want and use emotionally explosive terms to describe me, Marshall, but that doesn't make your assumptions or descriptions accurate. I have a feeling that you didn't examine my site much. I specifically state in the sidebar, "I am not calling for a theocracy, and I am not calling for the advancement of the Kingdom of God through force."
If you scroll through the sidebar, you'd see that I think we need a Christian President because of Godly strength, Godly wisdom, and the Guidance of the Holy Spirit. I also think a President should be an ambassador of Christ, but that does not mean I think that he should "shove Jesus down the throats of the masses."
Beyond that, the whole point of this site is politically oriented. I believe in life, marriage, the right to keep and bear arms, free speech, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, secure borders and the upholding of the law, free markets, lower taxes, etc. I believe those things honor God, but I do not think that they serve to "shove Jesus down the throats of the masses."
It's interesting that you'd point out that the Bible doesn't say "We must replace Caesar with one of our own." But Jesus DID tell his disciples that they'd testify before kings and governors. What were they supposed to say? "We're going to tell you about Jesus, but please don't get saved, because you're in the government, and our goal is not to have Christians in the government"? I don't think so.
Paul says to pray for kings and all those in authority. I'd imagine that that instruction doesn't exclude praying for their salvation and for them to rule in a God-honoring way.
Paul calls government a "minister of God." (Romans 13)
Then, there are these wise insights in Proverbs:
"When the righteous triumph, there is great glory, But when the wicked rise, men hide themselves." (Proverbs 28:12)
"When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, But when a wicked man rules, people groan." (Proverbs 29:2)
I'd agree with you that many people calling themselves Christians don't live up to their high calling. But, having said that, I don't know what your definition of Christianity is.
I left out Christian consistency...
"Paul says to pray for kings and all those in authority. I'd imagine that that instruction doesn't exclude praying for their salvation and for them to rule in a God-honoring way."
There is a BIG difference between praying for leaders in government and electing them to office, a nuance you, and the majority of Huckabee supporters seem to miss.
"Jesus DID tell his disciples that they'd testify before kings and governors"
How is this the same as commanding them to BECOME kings or GOVERNORS?
Couldn't the Holy Spirit provide wisdom to the unsaved? Is it beyond the powers of the Almighty?
I admit that at first I didn't read much of your site. Yep, you do not call for a theocracy, only for a "Christian" President to rule based upon "Christian" values. So you favor a "theocracy" in everything but name, it appears to me.
If what you say is true, wouldn't a conservative Jew, or heaven forbid Mormon, make a better President than a "moderate" Christian one?
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Does it not seem simpler to you to elect godly Christians to office, rather than hoping and praying that they are (or become) godly and Christian once they're in office?
You didn't mention my verses from Proverbs. We have the opportunity in a free, democratic republic to elect godly leaders. Why shouldn't we?
It appears to me that you think Christians should stay out of the political sphere. This, of course, is the dream come true of all secular humanists and the fast track to as ungodly a country as possible.
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Of course the Holy Spirit CAN provide wisdom to the unsaved. That's why we pray for our leaders, regardless of their faith. But I believe that's kind of like the exception versus the norm. A President with an active, close relationship with God is preferable.
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No. I want a God-honoring Democratic Republic. If I wanted a theocracy, I'd build an idol and convince people to relinquish all their voting rights and all their freedoms to a priest who supposedly hears instruction from the stone statue.
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This is a very tough question. It depends upon how you define "moderate," I guess. If I thought the candidate was a strong Christian, I'd be forced to decide between Godly strength, Godly wisdom, the Guidance of the Holy Spirit, Christ's ambassadorship and my political values. Christian consistency would also come into play.
Thanks for letting us know, I'm signed up and have signed the petitions.
Larry and Stavro,
You're welcome.
James,
Please refresh my memory: have we been in touch before? Your site was interesting. Confusing, but interesting.
Or maybe I should say, "Complex, but interesting."
No, I didn't mention your verses from Proverbs.
Are you implying that because he was an ex-pastor Huckabee is "righteous"? This seems to be the "reasoning" behind many of his supporters. He claims to be a Christian so GOD must want him President? He was an ex-pastor so he MUST be righteous? He swears he is? Ed Rollins told him if he just keeps repeating "I am a Christian" he will win the stupid vote?
I am not saying that you should not want a Christian for President, or that you should not pray for the same. What I am saying is that it seems to me that because Huckabee says, "I am really, really a Christian" you want to vote for him, while apparently ignoring his populist, and quite frankly un-Christian, positions.
I am not suggesting that Christians don't belong in the political sphere. I am saying that just because a person says "I love Jesus" you should actually look at what he proposes. This is my problem with Huckabee and most of his supporters. I say "he isn't that conservative" and you reply, "he is a Christian". I say, "so is Jim Bakker" and you reply, "you don't want Christians in office".
If Huckabee would give up the economic populism, which I doubt, and of course the national ban on public smoking I might consider voting for him. He won't because his appeal is only to those who are only nominally republican, because abortion is a sin, but apparently not envy.
What has happened to Christians in this country? Coveting their neighbors money? Stealing through the power of government isn't a sin either? Jesus would be so proud?
Ted Kennedy claims to be a Christian also, would you vote for him?
No, I'm absolutely not suggesting that. I was speaking in the general sense, because you were making sound almost as if you thought Christians should avoid electing Christian leaders.
If we can reach some common ground generically (which it seems we are), we can agree to disagree about Huckabee specifically. However, as for him:
I admit that I do get a little squeamish when I hear a Huckabee supporter seem to implicate that God has destined Huckabee to be President, sooner or later. However, I don't think I have a biblical backing to condemn their sentiments, if they feel that they have received an assurance from God.
Anyways, though, most--like me--just want God's will to be done.
The model conversation you presented is nothing like the one we've had. I have looked at what Huckabee proposes. When you say, "he's not a conservative," I reply, "How do you figure?"
He is pro-life, pro-marriage, pro-Second Amendment, pro-strong military, pro-war in Iraq, pro-war on terror, and pro-Israel.
If you call him "liberal" because of his record on illegal immigration, then Giulani and Romney (no need to mention McCain) are liberals, too. If you call him liberal because he raised taxes, then Ronald Reagan is a liberal, too. The fact is, Huckabee raised taxes and lowered taxes, and he now proposes the revolutionary Fair Tax.
I don't know specifically what un-Christian positions you are referring to, but you have to be careful with the tag "populist." John Edwards' populism and Mike Huckabee's populism is not the same thing.
I don't think Huckabee is promulgating covetousness. He understands and reaches out to the little guy. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, for he has consistently said that he "doesn't want to make rich people poor. He wants to give poor people the chance to get rich." He's proposed the most sweeping leveling of the tax code: the Fair Tax.
As for his national ban on public smoking, I think he's backed off on that, but, to speak to the issue anyways, I realize that we must be careful when restricting a person's freedom, be it a businessowner's or just any ole smoker's. But we must also take the danger of secondhand smoke seriously. In any case, the issue of a public smoking ban ranks very low on my list of priorities.
Back to Huckabee's Christianity: I can't see his heart; only God can. But I can look at his actions and his core political positions, and I can listen to him speak about his faith. He doesn't just say, "I'm really, really a Christian," like virtually every candidate does. When he speaks about his faith, he speaks with a candor, an eloquence, a knowledge, and a sincerity that leads me to believe he is a strong Christian.
I've often said that "we want a true (AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL) Christian President."
Also, I'd like to give you a little background about myself and this blog. I've been a Huckabee "fan" (not supporter) since mid-November. At that time, there were still several candidates who I thought had potential to be Christian Presidents. Duncan Hunter was my other favorite.
But, as the second-tier candidates began to drop like flies, and Huckabee developed into an A-rate candidate, my choice became clearer and clearer, contrasted to Romney, Giulani, and McCain.
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