I just couldn't help myself. I just had to send another e-mail to West Virginia for Life, Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life, and Delaware Right to Life.
WVL: wvforlife@labs.net
MCCL: information@mccl.org
DRTL: prolifedelaware@juno.com
I told myself that I wasn't going to contact you again. I guess I told myself wrong. I just had to send you one more e-mail, asking you to endorse Mike Huckabee for President.
So much is at stake in this election. Will we have a President who supports and fights for a Human Life Amendment? Not unless Mike Huckabee is elected. He is the only candidate supporting such an amendment.
Will we have a President who stands for the dignity and sanctity of all life, even that which is conceived by such an egregious crime as rape? Not if we elect Mitt Romney. His website clearly states that he supports abortions in cases of rape and incest.
Will he have a President who understands that the abortion issue is about protecting life and not just returning power to the states? Not if John McCain is elected. He believes that "constitutional balance would be restored" if we simply overturned Roe v. Wade.
Will we have a President who has consistenly landed on the side of life? Only if we elect Mike Huckabee. Mitt Romney used to be pro-choice. John McCain has been wishy-washy on the topic of embryonic stem-cell research, and his campaign finance reform has hindered pro-life activism.
There is one day left for your endorsement to exert an influence. I ask you a final time: please make the strongest stand for life possible. Endorse the most complete, most consistent, most passionate pro-life candidate in the race: Mike Huckabee.
Despite what the pundits say, he can win. But he could use your help.
Thank you for your time.
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With McCain we compromise our platform on taxation, family values, and free speech. With Huckabee we compromise our values on spending, taxation, and crime. Mitt Romney is the only candidate that prevented the impeding republican schism of the three factions. This fact is plain to insiders such a Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and Ann Coulter who have directly or indirectly endorsed Mitt.
The reason Mitt’s “flip-flopper” status sticks, is the subject of a famous poll from Vanderbilt. This survey shows that 26 percent of those who accuse Romney of flip-flopping also indicate that Mormonism, not flip-flopping, is their problem with Mitt.
Some Mormons claim that we can not hold Huckabee or McCain accountable for the prejudices of America. In response, I point out that Huck’s official blog, whose comments are edited by campaign staff, allows remarks such as: if we elect Mitt “we might as well elect a witch...” Huck continues to refer to himself as a “Christian leader” (implying that Mitt is not) and refusing to classify Mormons as Christians. Huck, a knowledgeable Bapitist Minister, but plays ignorant about his anti-Mormon remarks concerning Christ’s brother. Not to mention Huck’s supporters participating in push-polling, anti-Mormon Christmas cards, and spam emails. Even now when Huck has no chance of winning, he continues to campaign in order to whittle away Mitt’s social conservatives. Every time Huckabee is asked about the frontrunner McCain he twists the question into an attack on Mitt. Ultimately, the Baptist Minister would rather have a social liberal in the White House rather then a Mormon.
Much of what you say is completely unsubstantiated, and some is just ridiculous.
"With McCain we compromise..."
Besides a Christian President, there's no telling what we compromise with Romney. He flip-flops on so much...not to mention the dishonesty:
"I'm a lifelong hunter."
"I got the endorsement of the NRA."
"I never called your [McCain's] plan amnesty."
"This is a two-man race." (automated call)
Your second paragraph:
1.) So what about the 74% who accuse Mitt Romney of flip-flopping who DON'T think his Mormonism is a problem? I guess that's just a miniscule three-quarters majority, huh?
2.) If you read my post "Christian Consistency," you will see why Romney's Mormonism is interconnected with his flip-flopping. I'm not saying all or most Mormons are flip-floppers. Read my post to see what I am saying.
"allows remarks such as: if we elect Mitt 'we might as well elect a witch...'" ~Eric
I don't know what their comment policy is, but I'm certainly not to going to make the assumption that Huckabee and his campaign hate Mormons.
"Huck continues to refer to himself as a 'Christian leader' (implying that Mitt is not) and refusing to classify Mormons as Christians." ~Eric
I know that I, and many others, would be very disappointed in Huckabee if he classified Mormons as Christians. That would be political correctness at its worst, sacrificing doctrinal integrity before God so as not to ruffle the feathers of people like you.
"Not to mention Huck's supporters participating in push-polling, anti-Mormon Christmas cards, and spam e-mails." ~Eric
You don't provide any evidence of these travesties, but the issue is irrelevant, anyway (I noticed you said "not to mention"). But, while we're on the topic, how about Mitt's automated telephone calls saying, "This is a two-man race." Mitt Romney, KNOWINGLY spreading a BLATANT lie. Then, there's the lie, "A vote for Huckabee is a vote for McCain." How about this? "A vote for Romney is a vote for McCain." Just as valid. Or, better yet, "A vote for Huckabee is a vote for Huckabee."
"Even now when Huck has no chance of winning, he continues to campaign in order to whittle away Mitt's social conservatives." ~Eric
Totally groundless claim. Huckabee is still in this because he can still win. In fact, he could have a better day than Romney on Tuesday. Will Romney drop out? Probably not. Personal wealth will give you that luxury. So, indeed, as it turns out, maybe Romney is whittling away HUCKABEE'S support.
With the possibility of a brokered convention this year, there's no telling what might happen.
"Every time Huckabee is asked about the frontrunner McCain he twists the question into an attack on Mitt. Ultimately, the Baptist Minister would rather have a social liberal in the White House rather then a Mormon." ~Eric
First of all, for your information, this "Baptist Minister" was governor for a lot longer than "the Mormon Bishop."
Second of all, McCain has been much more civil to Huckabee than Romney has. Maybe that's why Huckabee is returning the niceness.
Thirdly, if Huckabee knocks out Romney, suddenly Huckabee becomes the only conservative left in the race with McCain. If that's what he's doing, it's definitely a smart strategy to aim all attacks on Romney right now.
Acccording to the polls almost 70% of republicans are comfortable with abortion. If 18% are for Huckabee; then the rest has to be for the pro-choice candidates; if the polls are right. The percentage of pro-choice is without a doubt much greater among democrats; if the polls are right. God help us and may the polls be wrong and may the rest of these people be convicted of these grave mistake in judgement of what sin is.
To say that Mitt Romney is not Christian is laughable and down right wrong. It's bigots like you that may prevent this nation from having one of the greatest presidents in its history.
Strong Reasons
Mormon Cult
Gary, I hope those polls are wrong.
If the Republican party ever decides that abortion is not an issue, it will no longer be my party.
Andrew,
"One of the greatest presidents in history"? How could you possibly know that? The man has flip-flopped with the political winds on numerous issues, and still isn't too strong on some.
He flip-flopped on abortion, doesn't think the "country is ready to end abortion," (an apathetic, conciliatory approach) and still thinks it's okay to kill your baby if he/she was conceived by rape or incest.
He didn't use to support the Federal Marriage Amendment; he didn't fight for marriage in Massachusetts, instead letting activist judges push him around; and, correct me if I'm wrong, he's still for gay rights initiatives like ENDA. (Correct me on that one, if need be; I'm not sure.)
He used to be an advocate for gun control, supporting the Brady Bill and an assault weapons ban, and signing a permanent assault weapons ban in Massachusetts. He's pulled a chameleon act this election cycle, becoming a "lifetime" member of the NRA and saying that he is a "lifelong" hunter (it depends on how much you want to stretch the term "lifelong").
How 'bout immigration? He didn't do much with the sanctuary cities in his state. Then, there's this statement from less than two years ago:
"I don't believe in rounding up 11 million people and forcing them at gunpoint from our country," Romney said. "With these 11 million people, let's have them registered, know who they are. Those who've been arrested or convicted of crimes shouldn't be here; those that are here paying taxes and not taking government benefits should begin a process towards application for citizenship, as they would from their home country."
Sounds a lot like McCain or Giulani's plans, but Romney acts as if he's the political reincarnation of Tom Tancredo now.
Look: I've just taken four issues and shown you why I can't trust Romney to be President, and certainly not to be "one of the greatest presidents in history." Being principled and full of convictions is a main facet of a great president. Mitt Romney is not like that.
And I haven't even mentioned his religion! However, if you see my post "Christian Consistency," you will see why I think flip-flopping and non-Christian belief are interconnected. Of course, since you believe Mormonism is Christian, then the post probably won't mean anything to you.
By the way, although you don't say it in the most flattering terms, thank you for your compliment. I do indeed hope that I can help prevent Romney from getting nominated.
Good job your man Huck just gave it to McCain.
so instead of a Mormon who shares your views you have:
1) flip-flopped on overturning Roe v Wade
2) fought tax cuts (I don’t care if you want to cut spending you don’t fight tax cuts when the economic is tentative after a major attack on US soil)
3) known loose cannon in Senate with an explosive temper with one of his fellow senator recently stating Sen. Thad Cochran: “The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine," also a senior member of the Appropriations panel, told the Boston Globe recently. "He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."
4) On May 18, 2007, during a meeting to negotiate immigration legislation, McCain swore at fellow Senator John Cornyn (R-Texas) after Cornyn expressed concerns about the number of appeals that illegal immigrants could receive. According to multiple sources, Cornyn told McCain, "Wait a second here. I've been sitting in here for all of these negotiations and you just parachute in here on the last day. You're out of line," to which McCain replied, "Fu** you! I know more about this than anyone else in the room."
5) if creditability is an issue then why is McCain given a pass for almost running with John Kerry as VP
6) if creditability is an issue then why is McCain given a pass for almost defecting to the democrats on separate occasions.
7) dumped first wife after she got in car accident and required crutches and gained weight
8) married trophy wife 18yrs younger
9) trophy wife is a drug addict stealing pain meds from her own charity (recovered now of course, because most druggies eventually stay clean)
10) flip-flopped on ethanol
11) part of Keating Five scandal where he took payment for the government to look the other way while the Savings and Loan scandal took place
12) amnesty legislation for illegal aliens
13) Criticized numerous religious groups and people who he now takes money from
14) Flip flopped on open use of the Confederate flag
15) fought for gay Log Cabin republicans last election, but distances himself this time
16) McCain-Feingold: limiting free speech and in most circumstances hurting the republican party. Plus setting up all these 527 groups causing all kinds of problems
Well DONE TRUE CHRISTIANS
You mean you weren't happy about the results? :P
I do not like McCain--his record or his positions. You may have noticed, I officially un-endorsed him for at least the nomination process. However, I will not be manipulated and propagandized by a candidate (Romney) to vote against my principles on the basis that he's "better" and he's the only one can win. Here's a novel idea: Romney was taking votes from Huckabee. Huck would've won Missouri, Oklahoma, and maybe Alaska and Minnesota, had it not been for Romney. Not to mention the bigger margins he would have had in his victories.
p.s. About the post about me on your blog:
First of all, I did not make the case that Mormons are the same as witches. I also would not make the case that a random non-Christian is the same as Hitler. But, my point was that, if you are not saved, you do not have the benefits of salvation, which, I believe, apply to the presidency.
Secondly, although I think I suspended this conversation because of constraints on my time, I NEVER made the case that God DIDN'T create the devil, demons, and non-Christians. That is an utter distortion. Unless my memory fails me, I was merely pointing out that you cannot take Paul out of context so that Jesus and Satan are somehow brothers.
Thirdly, I don't understand why it is so hard for you to grasp the idea of someone declaring what is Christian and what is not. You declare what IS Christian (your own religion). So, is one only allowed to declare what IS, and not what ISN'T? If so, is it not true that by omission you are declaring what isn't?
If you are not honest enough to edit that post, I don't know that it is worth my time and effort to continue a discourse with you.
If you could vote for a Catholic you should be able to vote for a Mormon.
Sorry I didn’t proof read my statement
I don’t want to blame evangelicals for McCain; I don’t want to have animosity toward my fellowman This is a sad state of affairs; we should be on the same team. If you could vote for a Catholic you should be able to vote for a Mormon.
And as far as Mitt stealing away Huck’s votes. That is ridiculous. Go look at the brake down of the Georgia primary. Suburbs and educated people voted for Mitt, the sticks and bigoted hillbillies voted for Huck. Thus Huck is and has never been a candidate that could garnish broad based national support. Thus not a viable candidate. But if it were not for Mormon bigotry Mitt could have easily received broad support, as he has with real conservatives like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, etc. And because bigotry has no place in America, Mitt should have been the natural candidate. You all really should be ashamed of yourselves, but you will have 8 years of Hillary to think it over.
PS if God did create everything, then he created satan too, and because Jesus was the son of God (and thus in a sense a creation of God) then Jesus and satan are both creations of God (so on an obscure level spiritually related), However Mormons in no way think they are bothers in any real sense, and for Huck to suggest that we do, was a shameless ploy for your bigoted vote.
God bless
Eric
trustmitt,
If I may comment on something you said...
Since when does Son of God mean creation of God? Does a human father create his son? No, there's another word for that - beget. The Son is begotten, not made.
Actually, the Son of God created the world, and so He is Creator not creation. Let me let you in on a secret. This is Jesus speaking in the Old Testament:
"Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. Surely My hand founded the earth, and My right hand spread out the heavens; when I call to them, they stand together....From the first I have not spoken in secret, from the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord GOD has sent Me, and His Spirit."
-Isaiah 48:12, 16 (NASB)
In case you missed that, God just refered to Himself in third person, and said that God sent Him, and His Spirit - in other words, Jesus is God. Now what was that you said about Jesus being a creation of God?
I hope this helps, and I'll pray that you may believe.
Regarding Roman Catholics and Mormons:
Roman Catholics believe in one God and that Jesus is the eternal Son of God and even truly God, not the brother of Satan. These are all orthodox teachings of the Christian faith, and false religions usually make a point to deny them.
Mormonism teaches many gods, that their god has a goddess wife, that they can become gods, that Jesus is the brother of satan, etc.
I'm sorry, but there is a difference. I wish Sam Brownback could have done well, I liked him. Yes, even though he is "Catholic," which is not a dirty word.
Thanks for letting me in on a secret that I already knew. Jesus is the speaker in the Old Testament, this is also Mormon belief. So thanks a ton. I probably have read the Bible as much or more then many so called Christians.
It is funny how all your beliefs are basically the same as Mormons, with some variations, just like every religious group. We all believe in Jesus with differences on interpretation.
God Bless
First off, Mormon doctrine and Mormon statements of speculation at two largely different things. Do you think that everything a Catholic has ever said should be assumed to be a basic belief of all members?
As far as gods (pleural) go, We believe in God the Father, In his Son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. Because they all work together as God they are singular and pleural, God (sometimes referring to one part, or all three) and Gods (referring to all three). And look in that book you call the Bible (sarcasm) Genesis 1:26 (I know it is really far into the book so maybe you didn’t get that far) “And God said, Let us (pleural) make man in our (pleural) image, after our (pleural) likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”
We should be on the same team fighting for a better America together, not fighting over esoteric minutia
Fair enough, but if that's true, then why did you say that Jesus is a creation like satan, and basically his brother?
We all believe basically the same thing?
Oh yes, all Christians surely believe in many gods and in a goddess wife. Yeah, I think I read that somewhere in the Apostles' Creed...
Okay, if we're going to play that game:
Isaiah 43:10, You are My witnesses, declares the Lord, And My servant whom I have chosen, in order that you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, and there will be none after Me."
Isaiah 44:6, "Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: "I am the first and I am the last, and there is no God besides Me."
Isaiah 44:8, "Do not tremble and do not be afraid; have I not long since announced it to you and declared it? And you are My witnesses. Is there any God besides Me, or is there any other Rock? I know of none.
Isaiah 45:5, "I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God."
The plural in Genesis refers not to gods but to persons.
And you only mentioned three Mormon gods. That's not counting the gods of other worlds, and their goddesses.
I've got to go, I appreciate the discussion. Please think about this.
One last thing,
I think it only fair to point out that the Mormon church has historically taught ("infallibly") that African Americans are inferior and that when Native Americans become Christians, they turn white. In fact, they deleted such a verse about Indians from the Book of Mormon.
Joseph Smith also translated a papyrus book of Egyptian heiroglyphs from back when they were untranslatable. Now we know how to translate hieroglyphs, and guess what, the same gift that Joseph Smith supposedly used to translate the Book of Mormon from those plates, produced an incorrect translation of the hieroglyphs.
Do we really need a President who is so gullible? How will he hold up to the pressure of meeting with foreign dictators and the like? I do wonder...
All your scriptures to the effect "I am the Lord, and there is no other; besides Me there is no God." I agree with, this is fundamental to any Christian religion (which includes Mormons)
Way way off on the infallibly argument, nobody is infallible except God.
An as far as the Egyptian heiroglyphs thing goes, you are so gullible to not have studied this before using it as false information against Mitt (besides it is completely irrelevant), the parts that Jospeh Smith translated are not in circulation anywhere most believe they have been destroyed. There are a few left over pages that have been put on display, but never translated my Joseph Smith. And if you are referring to the facsimiles, then you are again misinformed, nobody knows the translations, except for of course the Baptist experts (sarcasm), and there are various scholarly opinions at each end of the spectrum.
trustmitt,
So you agree that there are no other gods? That makes you unique among Mormons - unless not all Mormons are told that the church teaches many gods.
Kingdom Advancer,
Romney just dropped out today. I wasn't sure if you knew, but knowing you, you probably heard about it before I did.
Have you written anything to Texas Right to Life? Our primary is on March 2, I think, so there's still time! The link should take you to their website, if you're interested in contacting them.
You are just spouting Anti-Mormon crap, as I explained and all Mormons believe, the only God or Gods of the universe are The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost.
The crap you guys are saying attest to the fact that your uneducated views of Mormons made you political pawns .
Austin,
I knew it would probably happen yesterday. :)
And, boy, am I one contented blogger! Now, if we can only stop John McCain...somehow.
I haven't yet written to TRTL yet, though they would be the biggest pro-life prize to date. I just don't want to start the guns too early, because they might ignore my e-mails until they see if Huckabee will really stay in.
By the way, I got your e-mail, and will be responding to it soon.
"The crap you guys are saying attest to the fact that your uneducated views of Mormons made you political pawns."
Eric,
I am not a political pawn. Had Romney shown any consistency and real passion on abortion, marriage, the 2nd Amendment, and immigration, my qualms about him would have been much less intense.
Also, if he wouldn't have belittled those of us with serious concerns about his faith ("I really don't think someone is going to not vote for a candidate because of the church he goes to.") and erroneously and ridiculously invoked Article VI of the Constitution, I would have given him more credibility and respect.
Those two factors, combined with his faith, created a trifecta which I could not in good conscience overcome.
By the way, you've mentioned bigotry so much. How about your statement on Huckabee's win in Iowa, that inbreeding was one of the two key factors? That is one of the most bigoted, hateful, and slanderous statements I have heard during this campaign.
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